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Stefan Nguyen

12/03/2009 8:47 PM

post43156

Hi,

We've been using QNX Momentics IDE C/C++ and I know it is derived from Eclipse.
My question is can we use Open Source Eclipse Galileo IDE using QNX tool chain, compilers, debuggers? or do you have QNX
 IDE plugin for Eclipse Galileo?

Thanks,
Stefan@taseon

Andy Jin(deleted)

12/03/2009 9:40 PM

post43158

RE: Open Source Eclipse

In a nutshell, assuming you have a valid license, you can use the
Eclipse Galileo with updates from QNX IDE update site. You can get the
QNX bundles installed to your Eclipse platform.

However your installation is not identical to the QNX IDE. Because QNX
IDE is integrated to the QNX Software Development Platform, it works
seamlessly with the QNX tool chain with all the development environments
pre-configured and fully tested functionalities. You can't get this
tight integration from your open source eclipse installation.

There are several features in the QNX IDE that you can't get from the
update site, e.g. QNX Neutrino documentation bundles.

So the question is why bothered to do that if you can use the IDE in the
out of the box QNX Software Development Platform?

Regards,
Andy

-----Original Message-----
From: Stefan Nguyen [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com]
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:48 PM
To: general-ide
Subject: Open Source Eclipse

Hi,

We've been using QNX Momentics IDE C/C++ and I know it is derived from
Eclipse.
My question is can we use Open Source Eclipse Galileo IDE using QNX tool
chain, compilers, debuggers? or do you have QNX IDE plugin for Eclipse
Galileo?

Thanks,
Stefan@taseon

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Mario Charest

12/04/2009 9:42 AM

post43191

RE: Open Source Eclipse


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Jin [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 9:41 PM
> To: general-ide
> Subject: RE: Open Source Eclipse
> 
> In a nutshell, assuming you have a valid license, you can use the
> Eclipse Galileo with updates from QNX IDE update site. You can get the
> QNX bundles installed to your Eclipse platform.
> 
> However your installation is not identical to the QNX IDE. Because QNX
> IDE is integrated to the QNX Software Development Platform, it works
> seamlessly with the QNX tool chain with all the development
> environments
> pre-configured and fully tested functionalities. You can't get this
> tight integration from your open source eclipse installation.
> 
> There are several features in the QNX IDE that you can't get from the
> update site, e.g. QNX Neutrino documentation bundles.
> 
> So the question is why bothered to do that if you can use the IDE in
> the out of the box QNX Software Development Platform?

Because it`s usually a revision behind. Because some plug-in have trouble installing.  Because when you contact plug-in 
provider and you mention the QNX bundle they don`t know what you are talking about.  

As a matter of fact to "fix" all issue with subversion/subclipse I did just that and all my problem went away.

> 
> Regards,
> Andy
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefan Nguyen [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 8:48 PM
> To: general-ide
> Subject: Open Source Eclipse
> 
> Hi,
> 
> We've been using QNX Momentics IDE C/C++ and I know it is derived from
> Eclipse.
> My question is can we use Open Source Eclipse Galileo IDE using QNX
> tool
> chain, compilers, debuggers? or do you have QNX IDE plugin for Eclipse
> Galileo?
> 
> Thanks,
> Stefan@taseon
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> General
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> General
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Andy Jin(deleted)

12/04/2009 10:08 AM

post43195

RE: Open Source Eclipse

> Because it`s usually a revision behind. 
Can you point out one Eclipse based commercial software which uses the just-release Eclipse version? 
I am not bashing anything here but it's the natural difference between open source and commercial that commercial 
software has longer development and testing time frame then open source.
In fact the next release IDE 4.7 will integration with Eclipse Galileo (with the most up to date maintanence updates) 
which is the current released version.

> Because some plug-in have trouble installing.
You will see that in a lot of open source software too. That's why commercial software has longer testing time to make 
sure everything we ship integrate well.

> Because when you contact plug-in provider and you mention the QNX bundle they don`t know what you are talking about.
I don't know what you are talking about "QNX bundle". We've never released "QNX bundle" as a product so I am not 
surprised that no plug-in provider hear about it.

> As a matter of fact to "fix" all issue with subversion/subclipse I did just that and all my problem went away.
Congratulation you have found out a "fix" to co-exist Subversive and Subclipse. Would you please publish your solution 
so others can benefit?

Mario Charest

12/04/2009 10:11 AM

post43196

RE: Open Source Eclipse


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Jin [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:09 AM
> To: general-ide
> Subject: RE: Open Source Eclipse
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> > As a matter of fact to "fix" all issue with subversion/subclipse I
> did just that and all my problem went away.
> Congratulation you have found out a "fix" to co-exist Subversive and
> Subclipse. Would you please publish your solution so others can
> benefit?

They don`t coexist. I couldn`t uninstall subversive from the IDE. But when I installed Galileo it didn`t come with any 
svn plugin.  It was a no brainer to just install subclipse.


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Andy Jin(deleted)

12/04/2009 10:42 AM

post43201

RE: Open Source Eclipse

>> Congratulation you have found out a "fix" to co-exist Subversive and
>> Subclipse. Would you please publish your solution so others can
>> benefit?

> They don`t coexist. I couldn`t uninstall subversive from the IDE. But when I installed Galileo it didn`t come with any
 svn plugin.  It was a no brainer to just install subclipse.

Not discriminating one from the other, just pass on the fact - Eclipse uses Subversive as its SVN solution not Subclipse
. Subversive is part of the Eclipse Galileo simultaneous release and you can install it directly from the Galileo 
repository under the "Collaboration" category.

Mario Charest

12/04/2009 11:58 AM

post43215

RE: Open Source Eclipse


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Jin [mailto:community-noreply@qnx.com]
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 10:42 AM
> To: general-ide
> Subject: RE: Open Source Eclipse
> 
> 
> >> Congratulation you have found out a "fix" to co-exist Subversive and
> >> Subclipse. Would you please publish your solution so others can
> >> benefit?
> 
> > They don`t coexist. I couldn`t uninstall subversive from the IDE. But
> when I installed Galileo it didn`t come with any svn plugin.  It was a
> no brainer to just install subclipse.
> 
> Not discriminating one from the other, just pass on the fact - Eclipse
> uses Subversive as its SVN solution not Subclipse. Subversive is part
> of the Eclipse Galileo simultaneous release and you can install it
> directly from the Galileo repository under the "Collaboration"
> category.

Thanks for the info Andy. I`m using a plug-in that only works with subclipse.

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