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David KOCH

04/22/2008 4:55 AM

post7154

QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

After some time off from the QNX world, I'm pleased to know that 6.3.2 got a less restrictive usage from what happened
step-by-step from 6.1 to 6.3 (see my post on OpenQNX about this subject). Yet I'm surprised I cannot install it on my
new development machine, a Jetway J7F2WE2G motherboard (VIA C7 @ 2 GHz, 1 GiB DDR-2 @ 533 MHz, 500 GB SATA HD, ...),
here's what happens on screen :
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Boot from CD :
1. FD 1.44MB System Type-(00)
Hit Esc for .altboot............................................................
.....................Unable to allocate resource: Invalid argument

Press the space bar to input boot options or D to disable DMA...
Trying SATA ahci. Scaning for devices...
Trying EIDE. Scanning for devices...
...found 3 devices
Detected USB. Scanning for devices...
...found 4 devices
Trying SATAmvSata. Scanning for devices...

Please select a boot option. Option F2 is great for testing QNX compatibility
on new hardware without writing anything to the hard disk. It can also be
used for system recovery.

F2 - Run from CD (Hard Disk filesystems mounted under /fs)
F3 - Install QNX to a new disk partition

Select? <<F3>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QNX Momentics Development Suite 6.3.2 Installation

This installation will create a QNX partition on your hard disk and
create a bootable QNX Neutrino image. You may abort this installation
at any prompt by pressing the F12 key.

Press F1 to continue.
Press F2 to set verbose (debug) mode.

Choice (F1, F2)? <<F1>>
Please enter your license key:<<VERYLONGLICENSEKEYENTERED>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
QNX Non-Commercial End User License Agreement

The software and related documentation that you are about to access (the
"Software", as further defined below) is offered by QNX Software Systems
International Corporation ("QSS"), 175 Terence Matthews Crescent, Kanata,
Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8, for your use in accordance with the terms and
conditions below.

By answering "I ACCEPT" during the download, installation or activation of
this Software, you represent that you have read, understand and agree to be
bound by the terms and conditions of this QNX Non-Commercial End User
License Agreement (the "EULA").

Background

QSS has developed and licenses a general purpose real-time operating system
known as the QNX (R) Neutrino (R) RTOS (the "Neutrino RTOS"). Its
microkernel architecture provides an extensible operating system framework
based on the foundational components of the Core OS technology. Additional
operating system services are implemented by plugging in other modules (e.g.,
networking, file systems, graphics, browsers, etc.). These software products
are available as part of the base QNX Neutrino RTOS Runtime, the Mass
Storage Filesystem Technology, the Advanced Runtime Module, or the
optional Aviage (TM) Middleware Products (collectively, the "QNX Runtime
F1: Accept F2: Reject Space/Up/Dn/PgUp/PgDn/Home/End to view<<F1>>
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please enter the disk you would like to install QNX Neutrino on.
The disk must be bootable from your BIOS.

Disk Device Contr. Size Hd Sect Cyl Drive Name
F1 /dev/hd0 EIDE 476940M 255 63 60801 SAMSUNG HD501LJ
Could not get drive info for HD501LJ fç3°.
Continue (Enter)? <<Enter>>

Partition installation aborted!
Please remove the installation media, then reboot your machine.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
So I'm pretty surprised, it's the first OS that refuse to install for unobvious reasons, I cannot even select the
partition. The HD is nicely partitioned, and a FAT32 formated logical...

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Keith Russell(deleted)

04/22/2008 8:17 AM

post7158

RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

David,

First, welcome back :-)

And thanks for that detailed report. I haven't seen this before so I'll need
some more info. Can you try the "Run from CD" option? If so please run the
get_hw_info script. This puts some detailed information about your machine
in /tmp/hw-info-<hostname>. This is in a ram disk so you will need to copy
it to physical media first. That should help narrow down the cause.

Thanks,
Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: David KOCH [mailto:david.koch@9online.fr] 
Sent: April 22, 2008 04:56
To: momenticsgs-community
Subject: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

After some time off from the QNX world, I'm pleased to know that 6.3.2 got a
less restrictive usage from what happened step-by-step from 6.1 to 6.3  (see
my post on OpenQNX about this subject). Yet I'm surprised I cannot install
it on my new development machine, a Jetway J7F2WE2G motherboard (VIA C7 @ 2
GHz, 1 GiB DDR-2 @ 533 MHz, 500 GB SATA HD, ...), here's what happens on
screen :
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Boot from CD :
  1. FD 1.44MB  System Type-(00)
Hit Esc for
.altboot............................................................
.....................Unable to allocate resource: Invalid argument

Press the space bar to input boot options or D to disable DMA...
Trying SATA ahci. Scaning for devices...
Trying EIDE. Scanning for devices...
...found 3 devices
Detected USB. Scanning for devices...
...found 4 devices
Trying SATAmvSata. Scanning for devices...

Please select a boot option. Option F2 is great for testing QNX
compatibility
on new hardware without writing anything to the hard disk. It can also be
used for system recovery.

F2 - Run from CD (Hard Disk filesystems mounted under /fs)
F3 - Install QNX to a new disk partition

Select? <<F3>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
QNX Momentics Development Suite 6.3.2 Installation

This installation will create a QNX partition on your hard disk and
create a bootable QNX Neutrino image. You may abort this installation
at any prompt by pressing the F12 key.

Press F1 to continue.
Press F2 to set verbose (debug) mode.

Choice (F1, F2)? <<F1>>
Please enter your license key:<<VERYLONGLICENSEKEYENTERED>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
QNX Non-Commercial End User License Agreement

The software and related documentation that you are about to access (the
"Software", as further defined below) is offered by QNX Software Systems
International Corporation ("QSS"), 175 Terence Matthews Crescent, Kanata,
Ontario, Canada K2M 1W8, for your use in accordance with the terms and
conditions below.

By answering "I ACCEPT" during the download, installation or activation of
this Software, you represent that you have read, understand and agree to be
bound by the terms and conditions of this QNX Non-Commercial End User
License Agreement (the "EULA").

Background

QSS has developed and licenses a general purpose real-time operating system
known as the QNX (R) Neutrino (R) RTOS (the "Neutrino RTOS"). Its
microkernel architecture provides an extensible operating system framework
based on the foundational components of the Core OS technology. Additional
operating system services are implemented by plugging in other modules
(e.g.,
networking, file systems, graphics, browsers, etc.). These software products
are available as part of the base QNX Neutrino RTOS Runtime, the Mass
Storage Filesystem Technology, the Advanced Runtime Module, or the
optional Aviage (TM) Middleware Products (collectively, the "QNX Runtime
          F1: Accept  F2: Reject   Space/Up/Dn/PgUp/PgDn/Home/End to
view<<F1>>
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
----
Please enter the disk you would like to install QNX...

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David KOCH

04/23/2008 4:11 AM

post7191

Re: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Here it is ! Please notice that the LiveCD has every booted successfully, so I don't think it's a pure hardware issue, 
but mostly the installer that has brought me the very same installation problem from 6.2.1 since I upgraded to a 200 GB 
hard-drive in my previous computer, see here :

http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3365
http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3419

So I'm a bit at lost for quite a long time and only wanted to come back since the lincensing theme has changed 
(loosened) a bit. So I hope the report attached below could help to fix the issue that last for quite a long time...

Just wanted to know, as you might see in the report file that my machine features an embedded VIA Unichrome Pro AGPx8 
VGA adapter + a nVidia FX 5200 DualHead on the PCI bus, if I could run QNX 6.3.2 in TripleHead mode like I do in my 
other OSes. I had found it difficult to settle the Matrox G550 DualHead configuration working in my previous experience,
 see here :

http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3948

Thanks for any help :)

David KOCH aka Kochise

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David KOCH

Re: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

David KOCH

04/23/2008 4:17 AM

post7192

Re: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Ho, and by the way, if it is possible to came back to the original QNX 6.2.x theme designed by Bill Bull (i guess)

David KOCH

David KOCH

04/23/2008 4:33 AM

post7193

Re: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

QNX theme by William Bull, sorry... So if it's possible to switch it back in QNX 6.3.2 (through the theme selector for 
instance)

David KOCH

PS : sorry to add reply, I wanted to modify my previous one, yet while being logged in, I cannot...

Keith Russell(deleted)

RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Keith Russell(deleted)

04/24/2008 9:34 AM

post7236

RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Hi David,

Looking at the output of the hw script I notice you have 11 or 12 partitions
on that hard disk. Is that correct? It is a remote possibility that the
installer is getting confused by so many extended partitions. Can you tell
me the partition layout so I can confirm and possibly reproduce? 

I do know that the size of the drive should not be an issue. I have a 150GB
drive with no problems. About the only other thing I can think of is the
SATA controller is not supported. I noticed in the output that the hard disk
was being set to UDMA 2 instead of 5 or 6 like I would expect. I'm not a
block driver expert by any means but I would say that's part of the problem.
We only introduced SATA support in 6.3.0SP3, I believe, so you may want to
double check with your support rep so see if it is officially supported.

--
Keith

-----Original Message-----
From: David KOCH [mailto:david.koch@9online.fr] 
Sent: April 23, 2008 04:12
To: momenticsgs-community
Subject: Re: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Here it is ! Please notice that the LiveCD has every booted successfully, so
I don't think it's a pure hardware issue, but mostly the installer that has
brought me the very same installation problem from 6.2.1 since I upgraded to
a 200 GB hard-drive in my previous computer, see here :

http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3365
http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3419

So I'm a bit at lost for quite a long time and only wanted to come back
since the lincensing theme has changed (loosened) a bit. So I hope the
report attached below could help to fix the issue that last for quite a long
time...

Just wanted to know, as you might see in the report file that my machine
features an embedded VIA Unichrome Pro AGPx8 VGA adapter + a nVidia FX 5200
DualHead on the PCI bus, if I could run QNX 6.3.2 in TripleHead mode like I
do in my other OSes. I had found it difficult to settle the Matrox G550
DualHead configuration working in my previous experience, see here :

http://www.openqnx.com/index.php?name=PNphpBB2&file=viewtopic&t=3948

Thanks for any help :)

David KOCH aka Kochise


_______________________________________________
QNX Momentics Getting Started
http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post7191

David KOCH

04/25/2008 4:24 AM

post7291

RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Hmmm, I must confess I DO have several partitions on this VIA based computer :
- 1 primary with Win XP, then 1 big 420 MB extended with 12 partitions :
+ 1 Win 2K (16 GB)
+ 1 Reserved for QNX (16 GB)
+ 1 Ubuntu (16 GB)
+ 1 Linux swap (2 GB)
+ 1 Debian boot (Fedora) (0.2 GB)
+ 1 XOSL boot (0.1 GB)
+ 1 Fedora (14 GB)
+ 1 Fat32 (16 GB)
+ 1 Ntfs (64 GB)
+ 3 Fat32 (276 GB)
Yet consider that trying to install 6.2.1 on a non-SATA enhanced computer with a 200 GB hard-disk, with several less 
partitions (1 primary plus 6 extended) led to the very same problem. There is a legacy ATA limit (137 GB) yet my BIOS 
perhaps do have troubles working in LBA48 mode. But my other computer worked flawlessly on LBA48, however was also 
incompetent to install QNX.

Thanks for your checking, I'll wait a bit further until the installer is updated. Just notice that XOSL is GPLed, so 
maybe you might check its SRC to see how it performs...

David KOCH

Keith Russell(deleted)

04/28/2008 8:17 AM

post7363

RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Well, if it's the extended partition you want to install Neutrino in then
that's your problem, likely. Try freeing up some space for a primary
partition (that's what the Neutrino installer creates). 6.2.1 wouldn't work
most likely but the 6.3.2 driver should support larger disks with no
problem. Try a setup with fewer extended partitions using 6.3.2. That's
about all I can suggest at this point. I have had no issues at all with a
configuration consisting of just primary partitions so you may want to start
there.

--
Keith Russell

-----Original Message-----
From: David KOCH [mailto:david.koch@9online.fr] 
Sent: April 25, 2008 04:24
To: momenticsgs-community
Subject: RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

Hmmm, I must confess I DO have several partitions on this VIA based computer
:
- 1 primary with Win XP, then 1 big 420 MB extended with 12 partitions :
+ 1 Win 2K (16 GB)
+ 1 Reserved for QNX (16 GB)
+ 1 Ubuntu (16 GB)
+ 1 Linux swap (2 GB)
+ 1 Debian boot (Fedora) (0.2 GB)
+ 1 XOSL boot (0.1 GB)
+ 1 Fedora (14 GB)
+ 1 Fat32 (16 GB)
+ 1 Ntfs (64 GB)
+ 3 Fat32 (276 GB)
Yet consider that trying to install 6.2.1 on a non-SATA enhanced computer
with a 200 GB hard-disk, with several less partitions (1 primary plus 6
extended) led to the very same problem. There is a legacy ATA limit (137 GB)
yet my BIOS perhaps do have troubles working in LBA48 mode. But my other
computer worked flawlessly on LBA48, however was also incompetent to install
QNX.

Thanks for your checking, I'll wait a bit further until the installer is
updated. Just notice that XOSL is GPLed, so maybe you might check its SRC to
see how it performs...

David KOCH

_______________________________________________
QNX Momentics Getting Started
http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post7291

David KOCH

04/29/2008 9:06 AM

post7440

RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

I cannot even try to install over Windows XP as the installer fails just at the partition choice. I'll delete some 
extended partitions tonite (from Win 2K to NTFS) and check if it's an installer issue... Thanks for the feedback !

Kochise

David KOCH

05/14/2008 8:48 AM

post8027

Re: RE: QNX 6.3.2 x86 native ISO wont install

I installed QNX 6.3.2 under QEmu 0.9.1 without any problem, on a virtual 50 GB hard disk. I then made a drive image of 
that partition, got it out from the virtual hard disk and tried to set it back on my physical hard drive where QNX is 
supposed to be (the virtual hard drive structure was set the same to ensure it could succeed) Sadly the QNX installer 
modified/moved things out from the FAT allocation so my drive image program refused me to go any further with my disk 
image, in order to leave my physical hard drive out of trouble. May I expect some changes in the installer (loader ?) in
 the future to accommodate current hardware ? Try out my Jetway J7F2 motherboard from here for instance : http://www.
mini-itx.com/store/?c=34#j7f2 then add it 1 GiB DDR-2 533 memory plus a 500 GB SATA HD...

Kochise

David KOCH

05/19/2008 7:40 AM

post8240

Got it installed !

I tried again yesterday (I cannot be left on a failure, it just puts me on my nerves) and this time, I forgot my USB key
 in its plug hole. When it showed the installed disks, the installer showed the same behavior than previously, but this 
time something strange appeared on the USB line (F2) what gave me the hint. I restarted the install process from scratch
 (I had no other choice after all since the installer failed again) but when "Press the space bar to input boot options 
or D to disable DMA..." popped, I pressed the space bar and explored the options. I selected one of them, "Disable all 
but EIDE", and continued the install process without any problem ! Go figure... Still the installer in its current form 
is a failure, far too much unnecessarily complicated and cryptic...

Yet I encounter another problem, make my PCI nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Dual VGA and my AGP VIA UniChrome Pro display 
adapters working all together. Currently only my primary FX 5200 works in 'vesabios' mode !

David KOCH

John Halpenny(deleted)

07/22/2008 9:29 PM

post10869

Re: Got it installed !

I have just run into the same problem.  The installation disk for 6.3.2 does not see hd0t77.  I have an older Dell  
Dimension 2350 with a 60 GB disk on which I have created 4 primary partitions.  I have run fdisk from the cd and it will
 create a t77 or t79, display all partitions and I have even installed the QNX bootloader, which works, but there is no 
way I can mount partitions  /dev contains hd0 but none of the partitions.   

The four partitions are 
1 type 222  31 mb     Dell  dos diagnostics
2 type 7      47 GB    NTFS
3 type 79     7 GB       I also tried type 78, 79
4 type 12    3 GB     Fat32

I have tried varius combinations of mount  and devb-eide with no joy. the partitions do not appear. If I try to install,
 it asks me to delete and recreate the t77 partition and that seems to work, but then it cannot find the partition and 
quits. 

I tried "disable disk controllers other than EIDE" with no success.

Any ideas ?


John Halpenny

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