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Kevin Warkentin(deleted)

04/01/2010 12:40 PM

post51058

Generic driver for ATI Radeon 7000 graphic card chipset

Hello:

 In the past we have used a few different graphics cards for our process control software. We have been running QNX4.25G
 with an old version of QNX Windows 
(Version 4.20 release date 21-Feb-94. We are also now running our software under the new QNX Product Suite 2009. 
Everything runs quite nicely.
However one of our customers has noticed a performance issue with the different drivers and we have confirmed this inour
 lab environment.

Some of the old drivers used  previously include gr.s3mmdb for an S3 Trio card and  gr.scitech for an ATI Rage Pro card

When using these drivers we have noticed that the windows "screen" task consumes between 5-20 % of CPU usage when 
refreshing graphic and control popups. We use the old sysmon utility to monitor this.
However when we use the gr.generic driver with ATI Radeon cards with the Radeon 7000 chip set we see screen usage that 
is between  40-80 % of CPU usage during refresh of graphics and control popups.This manifests itself into a slower 
refresh of graphics than with the older cards and drivers.

We are wondering whether there is anything that can be done with the gr.generic driver to improve performance or if 
there is an update to the gr.genric driver.
Our file dates are :
gr.generic 17-Aug-04   size 189328
gr.radeon  17-Aug-04  size 116156

The generic driver is started as follows:

 /usr/bin/int10
/etc/win/drivers/gr.generic -dradeon -B  -g 1024x768 -R60  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null

The older S3 driver was started as follows:
 
/usr/bin/int10
/etc/win/drivers/refresh_s3 -r72,72,60,43
/etc/win/drivers/gr.s3mmdb  -g 1024x768x256  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null

The older ATI Rage Pro driver was started as follows:

/usr/bin/int10
/etc/win/drivers/gr.scitech  -g 1024x768x256  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null

NOTE:  The ATI Rage Pro card (gr.scitech driver) had 128MB of memory
            while ATI Radeon cards(gr.generic)  had 64 DDR
            ( not sure about S3 cards ( gr.s3mmdb)
          Don't know if memory is a factor here or not.

Oleg Bolshakov(deleted)

04/05/2010 9:22 AM

post51131

Re: Generic driver for ATI Radeon 7000 graphic card chipset

Hi Kevin,

Can you test this issue with latest QNX Windows?

-- 
Respectfully,
Oleg

> Hello:
> 
>  In the past we have used a few different graphics cards for our
> process control software. We have been running QNX4.25G with an old
> version of QNX Windows (Version 4.20 release date 21-Feb-94. We are
> also now running our software under the new QNX Product Suite 2009.
> Everything runs quite nicely. However one of our customers has noticed
> a performance issue with the different drivers and we have confirmed
> this inour lab environment.
> 
> Some of the old drivers used  previously include gr.s3mmdb for an S3
> Trio card and  gr.scitech for an ATI Rage Pro card
> 
> When using these drivers we have noticed that the windows "screen" task
> consumes between 5-20 % of CPU usage when refreshing graphic and
> control popups. We use the old sysmon utility to monitor this. However
> when we use the gr.generic driver with ATI Radeon cards with the
> Radeon 7000 chip set we see screen usage that is between  40-80 % of
> CPU usage during refresh of graphics and control popups.This manifests
> itself into a slower refresh of graphics than with the older cards and
> drivers.
> 
> We are wondering whether there is anything that can be done with the
> gr.generic driver to improve performance or if there is an update to
> the gr.genric driver. Our file dates are :
> gr.generic 17-Aug-04   size 189328
> gr.radeon  17-Aug-04  size 116156
> 
> The generic driver is started as follows:
> 
>  /usr/bin/int10
> /etc/win/drivers/gr.generic -dradeon -B  -g 1024x768 -R60  >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null
> 
> The older S3 driver was started as follows:
> 
> /usr/bin/int10
> /etc/win/drivers/refresh_s3 -r72,72,60,43
> /etc/win/drivers/gr.s3mmdb  -g 1024x768x256  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null
> 
> The older ATI Rage Pro driver was started as follows:
> 
> /usr/bin/int10
> /etc/win/drivers/gr.scitech  -g 1024x768x256  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null
> 
> NOTE:  The ATI Rage Pro card (gr.scitech driver) had 128MB of memory
>             while ATI Radeon cards(gr.generic)  had 64 DDR
>             ( not sure about S3 cards ( gr.s3mmdb)
>           Don't know if memory is a factor here or not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> General
> http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post51058

Kevin Warkentin(deleted)

04/05/2010 9:46 AM

post51136

Re: Generic driver for ATI Radeon 7000 graphic card chipset

Hi Oleg:

  We don't use the latest windows. I can see if I can use it with our 
product and give you some feedback to see if it makes a difference.
  One interesting point is that this customer was using a ATI Radeon 9200 
card with 128 MB of RAM with the generic driver and it worked fine.
  This card however was an AGP type of card as opposed to a PCI card.
  Unfortunately the new computers do not come with AGP slots anymore.
  Could memory play a role here. The ATI Radeon 7000 cards we use now only 
come with 64 MB maximum.

   -  Kevin
 



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04/05/2010 09:31 AM
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Hi Kevin,

Can you test this issue with latest QNX Windows?

-- 
Respectfully,
Oleg

> Hello:
> 
>  In the past we have used a few different graphics cards for our
> process control software. We have been running QNX4.25G with an old
> version of QNX Windows (Version 4.20 release date 21-Feb-94. We are
> also now running our software under the new QNX Product Suite 2009.
> Everything runs quite nicely. However one of our customers has noticed
> a performance issue with the different drivers and we have confirmed
> this inour lab environment.
> 
> Some of the old drivers used  previously include gr.s3mmdb for an S3
> Trio card and  gr.scitech for an ATI Rage Pro card
> 
> When using these drivers we have noticed that the windows "screen" task
> consumes between 5-20 % of CPU usage when refreshing graphic and
> control popups. We use the old sysmon utility to monitor this. However
> when we use the gr.generic driver with ATI Radeon cards with the
> Radeon 7000 chip set we see screen usage that is between  40-80 % of
> CPU usage during refresh of graphics and control popups.This manifests
> itself into a slower refresh of graphics than with the older cards and
> drivers.
> 
> We are wondering whether there is anything that can be done with the
> gr.generic driver to improve performance or if there is an update to
> the gr.genric driver. Our file dates are :
> gr.generic 17-Aug-04   size 189328
> gr.radeon  17-Aug-04  size 116156
> 
> The generic driver is started as follows:
> 
>  /usr/bin/int10
> /etc/win/drivers/gr.generic -dradeon -B  -g 1024x768 -R60  >/dev/null
> 2>/dev/null
> 
> The older S3 driver was started as follows:
> 
> /usr/bin/int10
> /etc/win/drivers/refresh_s3 -r72,72,60,43
> /etc/win/drivers/gr.s3mmdb  -g 1024x768x256  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null
> 
> The older ATI Rage Pro driver was started as follows:
> 
> /usr/bin/int10
> /etc/win/drivers/gr.scitech  -g 1024x768x256  >/dev/null 2>/dev/null
> 
> NOTE:  The ATI Rage Pro card (gr.scitech driver) had 128MB of memory
>             while ATI Radeon cards(gr.generic)  had 64 DDR
>             ( not sure about S3 cards ( gr.s3mmdb)
>           Don't know if memory is a factor here or not.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> _______________________________________________
> 
> General
> http://community.qnx.com/sf/go/post51058



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